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Subject: [PTSDveteranSupport] This is an outstanding read reference:  Vietnam....

 
This is an outstanding read reference Vietnam....amazing how we allow history to be  written by Hollywood and the media.
 
 from Nick Bacon,  USA 1SGT (RET),  Medal of Honor Recipient
 
After my retirement in 1984 from the U.S. Army, I worked for the VA Regional Office in Phoenix, AZ as a contact representative and as an adjudicator of claims. After a short period with VARO, I resigned and helped John McCain  in his race for the U.S. Senate. Of course, John won and I went on to become  a City Manager in Surprise, AZ for 3 years.
 
When I moved to Arkansas in 1990, I returned to assisting veterans with their claims. In 1993 I was appointed to the position of State Director of Veterans Affairs where I spent the next 12 years helping veterans and their families.
 
 I was always surprised at the number of people claiming to have been Military Veterans, especially Vietnam Veterans. After opening the Arkansas State Veteran Cemetery several years ago, I was shocked to see so many of my VN brothers being buried. Then I received the following fact sheet from my  good friend Major General (Ret.) David R. Bockel, Director of Army Affairs, Reserve Officers Association.
 
 After the shock wears off, please send this information to all your address banks and local media. After so many years of misleading reports and unpleasant media comments; lets disseminate to this country the real truth, as painful as it may be.
 
 My son, my younger brother, my nephews are still serving in harms way in the war on terrorism. Let's not let them be treated like we were so many years ago - Fight Now, Fight Strong and Fight as long as we have to.
 
 God Bless America & God Bless Our Veterans
 
 Nick Bacon
 
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Subject: Vietnam Facts vs Fiction
 
For over 30 years I....like many Vietnam veterans....seldom spoke of Vietnam, except with other veterans, when training soldiers, and in public  speeches.  These past five years I have joined the hundreds of thousands who believe it is high time the truth be told about the Vietnam War and the people who served there. It's time the American people learn that the United States military did not lose the War, and that a surprisingly high number of people who claim to have served there, in fact, DID NOT.
 
As Americans, support the men and women involved in the War on Terrorism, the mainstream media are once again working tirelessly to undermine their efforts and force a psychological loss or stalemate for the United States. We cannot stand by and let the media do to today's warriors what they did to us 35 years a go.
 
Below are some assembled some facts most readers will find interesting. It isn't a long read, but it will....I guarantee....teach you some things you did not know about the Vietnam War and those who served, fought, or died there. Please share it with those with whom you communicate.
 
 
Vietnam War Facts:   Facts, Statistics, Fake Warrior Numbers, and Myths Dispelled
 
9,087,000 military personnel served on active duty during the official  Vietnam era from August 5, 1964 to May 7, 1975 yet only 2,709,918 Americans served in uniform in Vietnam while the rest served their tours in Germany, Alaska, South America and the United States
Vietnam Veterans represented 9.7% of their generation.
240 men were awarded the Medal of Honor during the Vietnam War
The first man to die in Vietnam was James Davis, in 1958.  He was with the 509th Radio Research Station. Davis Station in Saigon was named for him.
 58,148 were killed in Vietnam
 75,000 were severely disabled
 23,214 were 100% disabled
 5,283 lost limbs
 1,081 sustained multiple amputations
 11,465 of those killed were younger than 20 years old
 Of those killed, 17,539 were married
 Average age of men killed: 23.1 years
 Five men killed in Vietnam were only 16 years old.
 The oldest man killed was 62 years old.
 As of January 15, 2 004, there are 1,875 Americans still  unaccounted for from the Vietnam War
 97% of Vietnam Veterans were honorably discharged
 91% of Vietnam Veterans say they are glad they served
 74% say they would serve again, even knowing the outcome
 Vietnam veterans have a lower unemployment rate than the same non-vet age groups.
 Vietnam veterans' personal income exceeds that of our  non-veteran  age group by more than 18 percent. 87% of Americans hold Vietnam Veterans in high esteem. There is no difference in drug usage between Vietnam Veterans and non-Vietnam Veterans of the same age group (Source: Veterans Administration Study)
 Vietnam Veterans are less likely to be in prison - only one-half of one percent of Vietnam Veterans have been jailed for crimes.
 85% of Vietnam Veterans made successful transitions to  civilian life.
 
 Interesting Census Stats and "Been There" Wanabees:
 
 1,713,823 of those who served in Vietnam were still alive
as of August, 1995 (census figures).
 ~ During that same Census count, the number of Americans  falsely  claiming to have served in-country was: 9,492,958.
 ~ As of the current Census taken during August, 2000, the  surviving U.S. Vietnam Veteran population estimate is: 1,002,511. This is hard to believe, losing nearly 711,000 between '95 and '00. That's 390 per day. During this Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming  to have served in-country is: 13,853,027. By this census, FOUR OUT OF FIVE WHO CLAIM TO BE Vietnam vets are not.
 
The Department of Defense Vietnam War Service Index officially provided by The War Library originally reported with errors that 2,709,918 U.S. military personnel as having served in-country. Corrections and confirmations to this errored index resulted in the addition of 358 U.S. military personnel confirmed to have served in Vietnam but not originally listed by the Department of Defense. (All names are currently on file and accessible 24/7/365).
 
Isolated atrocities committed by American Soldiers produced torrents of outrage from anti-war critics and the news media while Communist atrocities were so common that they received hardly any media mention at all.
The United States sought to minimize and prevent attacks on civilians while North Vietnam made attacks on civilians a centerpiece of its strategy.
Americans who deliberately killed civilians received prison sentences while Communists who did so received commendations. From 1957 to 1973, the National Liberation Front assassinated 36,725 Vietnamese and abducted another 58,499. The death squads focused on leaders at the village level and on anyone who improved the lives of the peasants such as medical personnel, social workers, and school teachers. - Nixon Presidential Papers
 
 Common Myths Dispelled:
 
Myth: Common Belief is that most Vietnam veterans were drafted.
Fact: 2/3 of the men who served in Vietnam were volunteers.
2/3 of the men who served in World War II were drafted. Approximately 70%
of those killed in Vietnam were volunteers.
 
Myth: The media have reported that suicides among Vietnam veterans range from 50,000 to 100,000 - 6 to 11 times the non-Vietnam veteran population.
Fact: Mortality studies show that 9,000 is a better estimate. "The CDC Vietnam Experience Study Mortality Assessment showed that during  the first 5 years after discharge, deaths from suicide were 1.7 times more likely among Vietnam veterans than non-Vietnam veterans. After that initial  post-service period, Vietnam veterans were no more likely to die from suicide than non-Vietnam veterans. In fact, after the 5-year post-service  period, the rate of suicides is less in the Vietnam veterans' group.
 
Myth: Common belief is that a disproportionate number of blacks were killed in the Vietnam War.
Fact: 86% of the men who died in Vietnam were Caucasians, 12.5% were black, 1.2% were other races.
Sociologists Charles C. Moskos and John Sibley Butler, in their recently published book "All That We Can Be," said they analyzed the claim that blacks were used like cannon fodder during Vietnam "and can report definitely that this charge is untrue. Black fatalities amounted to 12 percent of all Americans killed in Southeast Asia - a figure proportional to the number of blacks in the U.S. population at the time and slightly lower than the proportion of blacks in the Army at the close of the war."
 
Myth: Common belief is that the war was fought largely by the poor and uneducated.
Fact: Servicemen who went to Vietnam from well-to-do areas had a slightly elevated risk of dying because they were more likely to be pilots or infantry officers. Vietnam Veterans were the best educated forces our nation had ever sent into combat. 79% had a high school education or better.  Here are statistics from the Combat Area Casualty File (CACF) as of November 1993. The CACF is the basis for the Vietnam Veterans Memorial (The Wall): Average age of 58,148 killed in Vietnam was 23.11 years. (Although 58,169 names are in the Nov. 93 database, only 58,148 have both event date and birth date. Event date is used instead of declared dead date for some of those who were listed as missing in action)
 Deaths Average Age
 Total: 58,148 23.11 years
 Enlisted: 50,274 22.37 years
 Officers: 6,598 28.43 years
 Warrants: 1,276 24.73 years
 E1 525 20.34 years
 11B MOS: 18,465 22.55 years
  
Myth: The common belief is the average age of an infantryman fighting in Vietnam was 19.
Fact:: Assuming KIAs accurately represented age groups serving in Vietnam, the average age of an infantryman (MOS 11B) serving in Vietnam to be 19 years old is a myth, it is actually 22. None of the enlisted grades have an average age of less than 20. The average man who fought in World War II was 26 years of age.
 
 Myth: The Common belief is that the domino theory was proved false.
 Fact: The domino theory was accurate. The ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) countries, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand stayed free of Communism because of the U.S.commitment to Vietnam. The Indonesians threw the Soviets out in 1966 because of America's commitment in Vietnam. Without that commitment, Communism would have swept all the way to the Malacca Straits that is south of Singapore and of great strategic importance to the free world. If you ask people who live in these countries that won the war in Vietnam, they have a different opinion from the American news media. The Vietnam War was the turning point for Communism.
 
Myth: The common belief is that the fighting in Vietnam was not as intense as in World War II.
Fact: The average infantryman in the South Pacific during World War II saw about 40 days of combat in four years. The average infantryman in Vietnam saw about 240 days of combat in one year thanks to the mobility of the helicopter. One out of every 10 Americans who served in Vietnam was a casualty. 58,148 were killed and 304,000 wounded out of 2.7 million who served. Although the percent that died is similar to other wars, amputations or crippling wounds were 300 percent higher than in World War II ....75,000 Vietnam veterans are severely disabled. MEDEVAC helicopters flew nearly 500,000 missions. Over 900,000 patients were airlifted (nearly half were American). The average time lapse between wounding to hospitalization was less than one hour. As a result, less than one percent of all Americans wounded, who survived the first 24 hours, died. The helicopter provided unprecedented mobility. Without the helicopter it would have taken three times as many troops to secure the 800 mile border with Cambodia and Laos (the politicians thought the Geneva Conventions of 1954 and the Geneva  Accords or 1962 would secure the border).
 
 Myth: Kim Phuc, the little nine year old Vietnamese girl running naked from the napalm strike near Trang Bang on 8 June 1972....shown a million times on American television....was burned by Americans bombing  Trang Bang.
 Fact: No American had involvement in this incident near Trang Bang that burned Phan Thi Kim Phuc. The planes doing the bombing near the village were VNAF (Vietnam Air Force) and were being flown by Vietnamese pilots in support of South Vietnamese troops on the ground. The Vietnamese pilot who dropped the napalm in error is currently living in the United States. Even the AP photographer, Nick Ut, who took the picture, was Vietnamese. The incident in the photo took place on the second day of
a three day battle between the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) who occupied the village of Trang Bang and the ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam) who were trying to force the NVA out of the village. Recent reports in the news media that an American commander ordered the air strike that burned Kim Phuc are incorrect. There were no Americans involved in any capacity. "We (Americans) had nothing to do with controlling VNAF," according to Lieutenant General (Ret) James  F. Hollingsworth, the Commanding General of TRAC at that time. Also, it has been incorrectly reported that two of Kim Phuc's brothers were killed in this incident. They were Kim's cousins not her brothers.
 
 Myth: The United States lost the war in Vietnam.
 Fact: The American military was not defeated in Vietnam. The American military did not lose a battle of any consequence. From a military standpoint, it was almost an unprecedented performance. General Westmoreland quoting Douglas Pike, a professor at the University of California, Berkley a major military defeat for the VC and NVA.
 
THE UNITED STATES DID NOT LOSE THE WAR IN VIETNAM, THE SOUTH VIETNAMESE DID.  Read on........
 
The fall of Saigon happened 30 April 1975, two years AFTER the American military left Vietnam. The last American troops departed in their entirety 29 March 1973.
 
How could we lose a war we had already stopped fighting?  We fought to an agreed stalemate. The peace settlement was signed in Paris on 27 January 1973. It called for release of all U.S. prisoners, withdrawal of U.S. forces, limitation of both sides' forces inside South Vietnam and a commitment to peaceful reunification. The 140,000 evacuees in April1975 during the fall of Saigon consisted almost entirely of civilians and Vietnamese military, NOT American military running for their lives. There were almost twice as many casualties in Southeast Asia (primarily Cambodia) the first two years after the fall of Saigon in 1975 then there were during the ten years the U.S. was involved in Vietnam. Thanks for the perceived loss and the countless assassinations and torture visited upon Vietnamese,  Laotians, and Cambodians goes mainly to the American media and their undying support-by-misrepresentation of the anti-War movement in the United States.
 
 
As with much of the Vietnam War, the news media misreported and misinterpreted the 1968 Tet Offensive. It was reported as an overwhelming success for the Communist forces and a decided defeat for the U.S.forces. Nothing could be further from the truth. Despite initial victories by the Communists forces, the Tet Offensive resulted in a major defeat of those forces. General Vo Nguyen Giap, the designer of the Tet Offensive, is considered by some as ranking with Wellington, Grant, Lee and
MacArthur as a great commander. Still, militarily, the Tet Offensive was a total defeat of the Communist forces on all fronts. It resulted in the death of some 45,000 NVA troops and the complete, if not total destruction of the Viet Cong elements in South Vietnam The Organization of the Viet Cong Units in the South never recovered. The Tet Offensive succeeded on only one front and that was the News front and the political arena. This was another example in the Vietnam War of an inaccuracy becoming the perceived truth. However, inaccurately reported, the News Media made the Tet Offensive famous.
The below picture is worth 10,000 words...!   GOD BLESS OUR MILITARY.   Please press the link below the picture to see a larger copy and the story behind it.

 
Then learn below, this Marine's new battle with the State of New Jersey.
  

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A  CRIMINAL  CASE,  ETHICS  CASE,  CIVIL  CASE  OR  ALL  THREE...
 
A high level state Supreme Court attorney ethics official, Robert Correale misuses his government and court office to Cover-Up and block ethics violations and legal malpractice charges against his own law firm, Maynard & Truland.  After seven years, the Cover-Up leads all the way up to the Governor's Office, Attorney General's Office, an United States Senator and the state's Supreme Court and Superior Court.
 
 
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The corrupt law firm Maynard & Truland was the defendant in the case,
and I was the Plaintiff in the attorney ethics complaint.
 
Instead of the State giving me "reasonable disability accommodations" for my war-service-related PTSD, the State allowed Maynard & Truland's arrogant lawyers to mock my disability in sworn,
State Supreme Court documents.

So far, our non-profit webpages have already had over 5,325,000 hits for 2007.
 
   PLEASE  READ  SOME  OF  FORMER  U.S.  MARINE AND  WEBMASTER'S  JACK  CUNNINGHAM'S  DAY-TO-DAY  EXPERIENCES  OF  LIVING  AND  SERVING  (24/7)  IN  A  VIETNAMESE  PEASANT  VILLAGE  AT:   http://www.capveterans.com/jack_cunningham
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Because guerrilla warfare basically derives from the masses and is supported by them, it can neither exist nor flourish if it separates itself from their sympathies and co-operation….The moment that this war of resistance dissociates itself from the masses of the people is the precise moment that it dissociates itself from hope of ultimate victory…

-Mao Tse-Tung

 

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On March 17, 2007, based on the communication strengths of the internet, an estimated 30,000 patriotic Americans from around the nation, came through an east coast snow and ice storm to stand together at the War Memorials for World War II, the Korea War and the Vietnam War.   These proud American flag-wavers stood, and still stand together in full support of America's men and women in military uniforms around the world.
Read the American Legion Magazine's article about the March 17, 2007 Gathering of Eagles.  (See pictures.)
 
 
WHY  DO  THESE  TWO  YOUNG  MARINES  LOOK  DRUNK?
 

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     Webmaster Jack Cunningham (Sussex, NJ) and George Dros (Cooperstown, NY) are sitting at a table in a Duc Duc Refugee Village peasant hut, near the village's market place.   The two, young United States Marines are members of CAP Team 2-9-2.  (CAP Teams were composed of about 8 to 13 Americans, who lived and served 24/7 in Vietnamese peasant-farming villages.    The Duc Duc Refugee Village was composed of about 2,000 homes.)
 
In the above picture, Jack's and George's eyes were shut, because of complete exhaustion.  It was July 1970.  At the time this picture was taken, the Americans in Duc Duc were not sure whether the CAP Unit would be pulled out of the village or whether it would be wiped out.  We were experiencing heavy combat.  Intelligence reports were coming in daily that the Communists wanted to punish the village while the Americans were still there.
 
      By wiping out CAP 2-9-2, the terrorists hoped to leave an example to other CAP Villages.  With alerts at the highest level, night ambush responsibilities were 100% watch throughout the night.  With two long patrols a day going outside the village, it didn't leave much time for the eight or so Americans to sleep. 
 
     Around the day this picture was taken, an intelligence report came in from the 1st Marine Division Headquarters in Da Nang that the high Communist Command wanted to speed up President Nixon's troop pullout from Vietnam.  They wanted to embarrass the Americans on a wide-scale and influence the American People into pressuring a faster troop pullout.  Their plan called for wiping out the Fifth Marines at An Hoa.  It was going to involve thousands of Communist Forces.  The Village of Duc Duc was on the large Marine Base's perimeter and was said to be the main route for the Communist attack.  Our orders that night in July 1970 was to set up in the most well protected position.  Our Cap Unit was expected to try and hold off the Communist drive off as long as possible.  We were expected to serve as a warning or trip wire (Queens Gambit) for the Fifth Marines.
 
Months after Jack and George pulled out of the village of Duc Duc, the Vietnamese communists punished the peasant village by burning it to the ground.  Hundreds of civilian men, women and children were killed, wounded and reported missing.  Two thousands homes were reduced to ashes.   The blaze could be seen from twenty-five (25) miles away in Da Nang.   It was the light of the blaze that guided United States Marines helicopters to the scene.
 
 
 
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Above is nineteen year old Jack Cunningham with one of the boys from the Duc Duc Refugee Village. 
 
 
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The boy with Jack is the Marine's village boy.  These village boys would run errands, cook C-Rations, clean up-after, massage tense muscles and serve as interpreters for the Marines.  Usually, each Marine had their own boy to help him around the village. 
 
Many times, adult peasants of Duc Duc would supply these boys with intelligence information of planned terrorist attacks on the village.   Supplying these intelligence reports on terrorist movements and plans may have been the reason why the Duc Duc Refugee Village was later burned to ashes.  
 
A month after the above picture was taken, the boy lost both of his parents in a terrorist rocket attack on their area of the Duc Duc Refugee Village.   After his parents were killed, the boy moved to a relative's home closer to the City of Da Nang;  which in the long run saved his life the night of the Duc Duc Massacre.
 
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Former CAP Marine and webmaster Jack Cunningham and his wife, Joan

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"How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"
John Kerry  April 22, 1971
-   At the time of his statements before the United States Congress, television news reporters and cameras, and Vietnamese Communist Negotiators in Paris, France, John Kerry was still in the United States Navy.
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